The virus is more patient than people are

The virus is more patient than people are

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.

When it comes to this outbreak, solidarity doesn’t just go from the healthy to the sick. It also goes from the rich to the poor. Social distancing isn’t gonna just be a week or two weeks — it could be a year or 18 months. So we’re going to have to enter a sort of wartime economy approach where we make these public health measures economically possible for people. And that requires a very radical thinking of what we owe each other economically.

Ron Klain
I think that’s right. To date, a lot of the focus, understandably, has been on the very short term: Everyone has to go home for work from two weeks, Congress will provide a payroll tax credit for employers who are paying the leave, and so on. But these actions are treating this like it is an extended snowstorm — like after three weeks it’ll all be over and life will go back to normal. That seems very unlikely.

No matter how successful these social mitigation measures are, this is going to be with us for in the medium term — for at least six to eight weeks. And then we’re going to face relapses. I think the challenge is that the virus is more patient than people are. So the pressure to let these measures up will be intense. And every time we do, we’ll see a reintroduction of the virus and then we’ll be back at it again.

This is going to have a persistent drag on the economy for a while. And, as you say, our economy is not well-suited to be shut down for long periods of time. Where it’s hitting first is individuals and families who have to pay their mortgage and pay their rent and pay their bills — that needs to be addressed now. But we’re also gonna need something much more comprehensive and much more long term. I think this is going to be with us for a while.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/19/... 

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 3/19/2020 5:01 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein


Дальше можно не читать.
Других таких ублюдков как на Vox'e даже подыскать трудно. Сначала они
десятилетиями рассказывают всем, какая это плохая страна, как её нужно
ненавидеть, а теперь льют крокодиловы слёзы об отсутствии коллективной
солидарности.
Да до хренища её здесь. Просто они в своих woke-гадюшниках к нему не
привыкли. Они привыкли только сначала расколупывать давно засохшие раны,
а потом обильно посыпать их солью.

Хотя нет, есть ещё вот такие:
https://twitter.com/glennkirsc... 

При том, что даже до Куомо(!) и Ильхан (!!!) дошло, что администрация в
принципе всё делает правильно.

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 3/19/2020 5:29 PM, YuraS wrote:

On 3/19/2020 5:01 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein


Дальше можно не читать.


кто бы сомневался

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

Ezra Klein


От же ж.
Мало им одной заразы, так они еще и социализм хотят вдобавок.

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Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 3/20/2020 5:07 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


Не "что", а "куда".

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:41:58 AM UTC-4, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:

On 3/20/2020 5:07 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


Не "что", а "куда".


Юра, ты дебил

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 3/20/20 2:07 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


Результат гораздо хуже, чем там, где всего этого нет.

-СБ

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 3/20/2020 12:47 PM, SB wrote:

On 3/20/20 2:07 AM, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite
difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of
social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only
industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The
only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal
health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to
social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are
asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


Результат гораздо хуже, чем там, где всего этого нет.


об этом пока очень рано говорить

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/a... 


Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:15:37 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


в абсолютном или пер капита?

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:17:18 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:15:37 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


в абсолютном или пер капита?


в абсолютном - это к бабке не ходи

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:18:25 PM UTC-4, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:17:18 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:15:37 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


в абсолютном или пер капита?


в абсолютном - это к бабке не ходи


серьёзно, не ходи к бабке, вирус занесёшь

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:18:25 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:17:18 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:15:37 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


в абсолютном или пер капита?


в абсолютном - это к бабке не ходи


тю, "так я же и старше тебя, петька"(с).

в абсолютном - неинтересно.

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:15:37 PM UTC-4, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


Тут сегодня прочел мнение в (извиняюсь за выражение) WaPo, что у Америки вообще-то есть некое преимущество перед Азией и Италией. Тут довольно много населения УЖЕ ДАВНО по сравнению с ними практикуют social dinstancing - 80% народу ездит на работу в собственной машине, а не на общественном транспорте, редко живут вместе с пожилыми родителями. Это типа может распространение вируса сделать медленне в сравнении с.

К этому хочу (уже от себя) добавить, что оно конечно правда для многих мест в Америке, но неправда для NYC и ещё нескольких перенаселённых мест, которые исключительно в blue states. Мораль? От коронавируса помрёт непропорционально больше либерального электората, нежели консервативного.

DvD

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 3/20/2020 3:53 PM, DvD wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:15:37 PM UTC-4, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 2:08:00 AM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.


цыплят по осени считают

боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


Тут сегодня прочел мнение в (извиняюсь за выражение) WaPo, что у Америки вообще-то есть некое преимущество перед Азией и Италией. Тут довольно много населения УЖЕ ДАВНО по сравнению с ними практикуют social dinstancing - 80% народу ездит на работу в собственной машине, а не на общественном транспорте, редко живут вместе с пожилыми родителями. Это типа может распространение вируса сделать медленне в сравнении с.



Если бы я был Костиком, то сказал бы, что я ровно это же самое писал
примерно неделю тому назад. И даже ссылку ы привёл.



К этому хочу (уже от себя) добавить, что оно конечно правда для многих мест в Америке, но неправда для NYC и ещё нескольких перенаселённых мест, которые исключительно в blue states. Мораль? От коронавируса помрёт непропорционально больше либерального электората, нежели консервативного.



Я надеюсь, что всё же умрёт не так много. К сожалению, выжившие будут
вовсю заниматься Monday quarterbacking.

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

On 20/03/2020 08:01, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
Ron Klain


А кроме кляйнов там кто-нибудь еще вообще остался?

Re: The virus is more patient than people are

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:45 AM UTC-4, putinh...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:01:02 PM UTC-7, 999Vulcan wrote:

Ezra Klein
One of the things that I think makes social distancing quite difficult is we do not have a country marked by a high level of social solidarity in our social policy. We are the only industrialized nation not to have guaranteed paid sick leave. The only industrialized nation that does not have guaranteed universal health care. This list goes on and on. So when we ask people to social distance or we mandate that they shelter in place, we are asking them to make very big economic sacrifices.


а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....




Поди ж ты что?


Поди ж ты жопа ?

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Re: The virus is more patient than people are

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:




а в италии вся вышеперечисленное кагбэ есть, а поди ж ты....


Поди ж ты что?


колапс-с, горы трупов, вот это вот это вот все.




цыплят по осени считают



боюсь, мы скоро оставим италию в пыли


Процент вентиляторов к населению сравнил уже ?

А жопа-то да, безусловно.
Не просто в пыли, а ДАЛЕКО в пыли.

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