The new normal

The new normal

We’re not going back to normal

https://www.technologyreview.c... 

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized—yet will soon—is that things won’t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.
...
Under this model, the researchers conclude, social distancing and school closures would need to be in force some two-thirds of the time—roughly two months on and one month off—until a vaccine is available, which will take at least 18 months (if it works at all).

Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 1:22 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:


As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring


Да не, куда-нибудь он денется нафиг. Как испанка. Нет же сейчас испанки.

Re: The new normal

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

We?re not going back to normal



https://www.technologyreview.c... 



We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.


Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?

Оссподи, как же зае эти малолетние идиотики.

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Const

Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 9:52 PM, Const wrote:

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

We?re not going back to normal



https://www.technologyreview.c... 



We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.


Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?


да, прямо как с гриппом
только с потенциально большим количеством жертв


Оссподи, как же зае эти малолетние идиотики.


MIT Technology Review - малолетний идиотик?

кстати, жена говорит, что тесты какие-то лажовые, куча совершенно явных
false negatives

Re: The new normal


999Vulcan пишет:

On 3/18/2020 9:52 PM, Const wrote:

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

We?re not going back to normal



https://www.technologyreview.c... 



We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.


Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?


да, прямо как с гриппом
только с потенциально большим количеством жертв


Оссподи, как же зае эти малолетние идиотики.


MIT Technology Review - малолетний идиотик?

кстати, жена говорит, что тесты какие-то лажовые, куча совершенно явных
false negatives


А моя жена говорит - результата теста надо ждать 5 дней. И пациенты
с подозрением эти 5 дней лежат в полной изоляции, заходят к ним
в костюме астронавта.

CF

Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 9:59 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:



кстати, жена говорит, что тесты какие-то лажовые, куча совершенно явных
false negatives




А как ты думаешь Китай и Корея так много народу протестировали?


12:27 — China is not planning on doing serologic testing on their
population. (This is second hand information Dr. Baric has been made
aware of.) This indicates that there has probably been significantly
more infection than what has been reported by China & that they do not
want the actual figures to be known.

https://medium.com/@hpcngmoh/y... 


Bye, Anatol

Re: The new normal

999Vulcan <999Vulcan@russian.z1> wrote:

On 3/18/2020 9:52 PM, Const wrote:

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

We?re not going back to normal



https://www.technologyreview.c... 



We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.


Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?




да, прямо как с гриппом
только с потенциально большим количеством жертв


Может быть и с большим.
Но не думаю, что намного.
Кроме того, им с простым гриппом придется делить
один и тот же пул жертв.



Оссподи, как же зае эти малолетние идиотики.




MIT Technology Review - малолетний идиотик?


Оссподи.
А ты думаешь, что миллениальный идиотизм только
в сельских колледжах ?
If anything, пижонские места ему еще больше подвержены.


кстати, жена говорит, что тесты какие-то лажовые, куча совершенно явных
false negatives


Да в этом во всём уже ничего не может удивить.

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Const

Re: The new normal

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT), 999Vulcan wrote:


We’re not going back to normal

https://www.technologyreview.c... 

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized—yet will soon—is that things won’t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.
...
Under this model, the researchers conclude, social distancing and school closures would need to be in force some two-thirds of the time—roughly two months on and one month off—until a vaccine is available, which will take at least 18 months (if it works at all).


 -   -    -    .  
 .



Re: The new normal

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 21:59:14 -0400, 999Vulcan wrote:


On 3/18/2020 9:52 PM, Const wrote:

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

We?re not going back to normal



https://www.technologyreview.c... 



We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.


Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?


да, прямо как с гриппом
только с потенциально большим количеством жертв


Да с чего бы? При смертности, сравнимой с гриппом. В Китае вон уже 0.3%.



Оссподи, как же зае эти малолетние идиотики.


MIT Technology Review - малолетний идиотик?


Я думаю там всякие идиотики бывают. И малолетние и престарелый. И не
идиотики, наверное, тоже бывают.

Юра

Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 7:47 PM, CF wrote:


999Vulcan пишет:

On 3/18/2020 9:52 PM, Const wrote:

999Vulcan <999vulcan@gmail.com> wrote:

We?re not going back to normal



https://www.technologyreview.c... 




We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us
have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go
back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things
never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and
will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a
report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a
way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures
every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike,
and relax them each time admissions fall.


Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?


да, прямо как с гриппом
только с потенциально большим количеством жертв


Оссподи, как же зае эти малолетние идиотики.


MIT Technology Review - малолетний идиотик?

кстати, жена говорит, что тесты какие-то лажовые, куча совершенно
явных false negatives


А моя жена говорит - результата теста надо ждать 5 дней. И пациенты
с подозрением эти 5 дней лежат в полной изоляции, заходят к ним
в костюме астронавта.


Всё вы врёте, а у нас как на картинке из поста!
https://www.facebook.com/dr.an... 

Но это всё не важно, а важно то, что денег на весь этот фетишъ у
госпиталя нет. И не будет.

Татьяна
PS. Я знаю кто в этой "гонке вооружения" выиграет - мексиканцы ;) потому
что в большинстве своем PPE там для нас делают.

Re: The new normal

Yury Mukharsky <iouri.moukharski@libertysurf.fr> wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT), 999Vulcan wrote:


We’re not going back to normal

https://www.technologyreview.c... 

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized—yet will soon—is that things won’t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.
...
Under this model, the researchers conclude, social distancing and school closures would need to be in force some two-thirds of the time—roughly two months on and one month off—until a vaccine is available, which will take at least 18 months (if it works at all).


 -   -    -    .  
 .




Двачую :)

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Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 21:00, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:

On 3/18/2020 1:22 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:


As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will
keep recurring


Да не, куда-нибудь он денется нафиг. Как испанка. Нет же сейчас испанки.


Надо же, оказывается у Димы здравого смысла на порядок больше, чем у
ребенка задушенного.

Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 21:59, 999Vulcan wrote:

кстати, жена говорит, что тесты какие-то лажовые, куча совершенно явных
false negatives


Бггг. Теперь осталось сделать только еще один шажок и медитировать над
замечательным вьетнамским (или каким там еще) тестированием.

Но вы не рефлексируйте, не рефлексируйте.

Re: The new normal

On 3/18/2020 22:47, CF wrote:

Барух ашем, а то я уж начал мохать, куда ты пропал.

Re: The new normal

Yury Mukharsky <iouri.moukharski@libertysurf.fr> wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT), 999Vulcan wrote:




We?re not going back to normal

https://www.technologyreview.c... 

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.
...
Under this model, the researchers conclude, social distancing and school closures would need to be in force some two-thirds of the time?roughly two months on and one month off?until a vaccine is available, which will take at least 18 months (if it works at all).




?? ??????-?? ????? ? ????-?? ? ???? ????? - ??? ? ???? ?????????. ?? ??????
??? ?????.



???


Поддерживаю, полностью поддерживаю.
Прямо СРЕЗАЛ этого Костика.

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Const

Re: The new normal

Георгий Малышев <g@m.com> wrote:

On 3/18/2020 21:00, Dmitry Krivitsky wrote:

On 3/18/2020 1:22 PM, 999Vulcan wrote:


As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will
keep recurring


Да не, куда-нибудь он денется нафиг. Как испанка. Нет же сейчас испанки.




Надо же, оказывается у Димы здравого смысла на порядок больше, чем у
ребенка задушенного.


Он у него просто как у гиены, пятнами.

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Const

Re: The new normal

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 09:48:08 -0000, Const wrote:


Yury Mukharsky <iouri.moukharski@libertysurf.fr> wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT), 999Vulcan wrote:




We?re not going back to normal

https://www.technologyreview.c... 

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized?yet will soon?is that things won?t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.
...
Under this model, the researchers conclude, social distancing and school closures would need to be in force some two-thirds of the time?roughly two months on and one month off?until a vaccine is available, which will take at least 18 months (if it works at all).




?? ??????-?? ????? ? ????-?? ? ???? ????? - ??? ? ???? ?????????. ?? ??????
??? ?????.



???


Поддерживаю, полностью поддерживаю.
Прямо СРЕЗАЛ этого Костика.


Да, я думаю он в полном недоумении.

Юра

Re: The new normal

On 19/03/2020 02:59, 999Vulcan wrote:



Шо, прямо как с гриппом ?


да, прямо как с гриппом
только с потенциально большим количеством жертв


Да, прямо как с гриппом. Только с таким же количеством жертв. Средняя
годовая смертность стабильна. Умирают чаще всего старики - так было
всегда. Только раньше воспаление лёгких приносил грипп, а в последние 15
лет - и разные коронавирусы тоже. И они конкурируют между собой за жертв.

Re: The new normal

On 19/03/2020 05:17, Yury Mukharsky wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT), 999Vulcan wrote:


We’re not going back to normal

https://www.technologyreview.c... 

We all want things to go back to normal quickly. But what most of us have probably not yet realized—yet will soon—is that things won’t go back to normal after a few weeks, or even a few months. Some things never will.
...
As long as someone in the world has the virus, breakouts can and will keep recurring without stringent controls to contain them. In a report yesterday, researchers at Imperial College London proposed a way of doing this: impose more extreme social distancing measures every time admissions to intensive care units (ICUs) start to spike, and relax them each time admissions fall.
...
Under this model, the researchers conclude, social distancing and school closures would need to be in force some two-thirds of the time—roughly two months on and one month off—until a vaccine is available, which will take at least 18 months (if it works at all).



            
 .    .    -
   .
         . 
      ,    
    .   20-30    
  .